lkw u teh suXxX kthx
WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with Lim Kok Wing promoting all these parties?
Just to set the record straight: I’m not against partying or any of that, but what the god damn college is doing really brings tears (metaphorically) to my eyes. The college is basically promoting a lifestyle of consumerism, excessive expenditures, and hedonism. What the fuck?!?! Is that what being "artistic" is all about now? I won’t go with the college’s definition of "art" anymore (like I ever have), but now they’ve gone overboard. Yes yes, I know these parties have nothing to do with art, but the fact that LKW has tried to be synonymous with the word "art", I’m pretty sure the image it projects to the outside world is worsen: It used to be known as a college for the rich and pretty, now it’s for the hedonists too.
Look people people… you’ve gotta draw the line somewhere here. A college that is pretty fucking far away from the city has to be able to take that extra mile to provide the students with most of their basic needs, at least academically. But what happens is things are overpriced, incomplete, and so-so quality. That situation coupled with the freaking heat and less-than-perfect "inteligent city", we’re pretty far away from the era of modern civilization.
But I have no problem with all that.
But to top it off with getting students to party so much, without putting into consideration that we live in MALAYSIA, a country where the majority of the citizens are muslims and have certain Asian values to uphold, then that is just too much. I’m all for cultural exchange and diversities (believe me, I do), but the way I see it, this is just nothing than complete waste of money for a mere couple of hours of hedonistic fun. Where the hell has humility gone to? Where the hell are the virtues? And nobility? God damnit people, THEY ARE RIPPING YOU OFF! No one is asking to you to pretend to be poor, but remember what kind of image you’re projecting out there. Some kids have gone here asking permissions from their parents to study in an ART college that (supposedly) has lots of awards and recognition. But do you really think the parents will be impressed by the amount of money the kids are spending on alcohol?
Fuck that no. Lol the more I write the more pissed off I get. Sorry for complaining and not doing anything about it, but this kinda things have to be addressed sooner or later. The fucking college has to evolve. Fuck this shit, I’m done.
September 21st, 2006 at 3:34 am
why dya think i left mate? its good that you know now… time to be done with your studies and git the fuck outta there… cheers and keep it real…
September 21st, 2006 at 4:28 am
BAKAR MILL!!!!
September 21st, 2006 at 5:13 am
u may think this is a fucking college..but u’re studying there my mate..too bad…
September 21st, 2006 at 5:26 am
(can they hear me?) …ok…i can only talk for a few minutes….guys…I am planning a break out…meet me at the corner behind wings coffee at 2am…bring shovels….I will take care of the guards…with weed….FREEEEEEDOOOOOOM!
September 21st, 2006 at 7:58 am
seperti kata Kim..
BAKAAAAAARRR
TIKAAAAAAAAMMM
HAJAAAAAAAAARRRR
gue rasa mereka ada balasannya lah kalo lo ngomong gitu..
KHAN KREATIP TEKNOLOJI KALO KATA ORANG JERMAN BILANG TONG !!
September 21st, 2006 at 8:17 am
u know it more than i do that this establishment is facing a whole lot of problems,and this supposedly brilliant scheme is brought up just rake in more unsuspecting victims to compensate their loss over the time in cyberjaya.
parties to show that LKW is a fun loving college? not really. and wtf happened to their portfolio anyway? i’ve noticed they still retain students work from a few years ago. lol GG noobs
September 21st, 2006 at 11:34 am
Matin: There have been several…err… uprisings, to say the least, that i know of that were happening since the college moved here.
Kim: Mwah!
Nurul: It’s not the matter of pride or anything, remember the quote: “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism”. I don’t “hate” limkokwing, in fact the reason I voice out my opinion is to have this to be a better place. If no one is speaking out and just calmly act like sheeps, then they’d just continue on with their nonsense.
Helen: You know what I’m gonna say to you…
Sani: I don’t understand what in the world you’re saying.
Joey: Since I spent my last semester doing practical training, so I haven’t been up to date with what LKW is doing and how it fares with other institutions now. But my other half works in the marketing, and she fills me in with their secret (HA HA!), so yea… I don’t know what the hell is going on with their portfolio, and indeed they still retain students’ work from ages ago.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:50 am
hedonis tuh apa sih om? sebaiknya ga usah bnyk komentar pake term hedonis, klo belon bnr” ngerti alasan kenapa suatu komunitas utk memilih gaya hidup tertentu.
life is more complicated than some moral judgements.
gue clubber, gue social drinker n klo kampus gue mulai pake konsep work-hard-party-hard .. ya bodo amat.
yg penting hidup kita beres. hati dan otak kt juga tetep beres. itupun bukan tanggung jawab kt” org utk ngejudge org laen.
tp gue ga ngerti klo standar nya malaysia ya, berhubung image malay emg dah … ya gt de.. kdengeran mpe jkt sini.
denger” si dr urusan drugs, sex, etc emg over disitu. tp ya… yg ditampilin di depan si siti nurhaliza nya aje.
so by this comment, gue represent jakarta doanq.
i may sound morally and emotionally detached here, tp sori om.. soal kampus lo gmn, bukan urusan gue juga. gue cuma pingin nekenin klo hedonis ga berarti org” yg kliatan party n nokip doanq..
kecuali lo begaulnya ma paris hilton, ga usah nganggep hidup org laen seneng” doanq dan ga ada susahnye.
peace.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:47 am
stlh dibaca lg, galak juga gue ya…hohoho..
gini. lo ga bisa paksain org laen utk ngikutin sesuatu standar yg lo punya kam,
ga ada yg bisa lo lakuin utk ngebuktiin standar pola pikir lo sbg sesuatu yg lebih baik dan lebih bijak drpd org lain.
ga ada.
lo bisa “bersikap” destruktif, tp mungkin yg sbnrnya lo pingin adlh spy sesuatu ngalemin proses kontruktif sesuai standar lo doanq.
yg bisa lo lakuin adlh siap ngadepin resistensi dr org laen, jgn ngarepin suatu kondisi yg looks ideal in ur eyes doanq.
hare gene…
to be able to live a good life aja udh sukur bgt.
biddeway
mohon maaf lahir dan batin.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:38 am
Ichaduma: Standard itu SELALU ada dimana2, bukan hanya standard moral, tetapi ETIKA dan KESADARAN LINGKUNGAN. Gw bingung lo ngomong banyak banget tentang jgn judge orang (dari dulu!), lah lo sendiri gak tau gmn kampus gw tapi masih komen juga. Double standard?
Apakah harus sampe jadi Paris Hilton baru sesuatu itu hedonistis? Gw gak ada bilang orang2 yg party itu semuanya hedonis, in contrary, gw bilang di awal tulisan bahwa gw pun suka party. Tapi kalo BERLEBIHAN, itu tetep aja salah. Gw punya temen disini yg demen party, dia pun berasa bahwa limkokwing udah kelewatan. So?
Komen lo yg lo bilang “represent jakarta”, wtf does that have anything to do with this?
“Hedonism (Greek: hēdonē “pleasure” + –ism) describes any way of thinking that gives pleasure a central role… The hedonistic philosophy usually has a sexual or libidinal connotation.” - Wikipedia.
Itu definisi gw. Dan itu yg gw liat disini. Ada yg salah?
Gw sebagai manusia mempunyai preferensi, favorit dan ketidak sukaan, dan opini. Gw bukan orang yg kalo ngeliat hal yg menurut gw berlebihan, gw diemin aja. Kalo ternyata memang gw yg salah, tell me and prove it. I’ll be glad to change my mind.
“to be able to live a good life aja udh sukur bgt.” Living a good life does not mean excessive spending on shit that kills you. (oh the fucking irony).
I’m not against the people, I’m against the idea. Fuck hedonism. (haha, the irony, again).
September 22nd, 2006 at 6:47 am
death to the wig-wearing one!!!
September 22nd, 2006 at 6:52 am
well.. well.. well..
may i give my comment Mr.Kamil?!
what a hot topic being discussed in here..
first, i dont wanna involve any institutions in here, cos i dont knw much about the institution which being discussed!!
second, hMm i just re-watched one of greatest Indonesian movie which’s Gie *directed by Riri Riza.red) . And i think i’m not too over if i said that now i’ve seen one of my friends who has potency as Gie had long time ago..
huu.. we need sumone who dare to ring the “bell”!!
I’m not against the people, I’m against the idea–> that’s right mil..
Don’t Hate the Players, Hate the Game!!! (courtesy of Will Smith’s words.red)
September 23rd, 2006 at 7:07 pm
Hahahah tae lah thur
Gw belum nonton tuh film, katanya bagus ya? Yg main filmnya yg main si Ada Apa Dengan Cinta kan ya? Liat dong!!
September 23rd, 2006 at 7:35 pm
yakin lo mo debat ma gue di blog?
heheh.. kesian lo nya ntar, secara terakhir lo ma gue debat abis 15 halaman.
i’m not against any kind of idealism, tp gue senep ngeliar org” idealis amatiran.
pointing fingers and blaming others, apakah itu adalah hasil idealisme yg sehat?
engga kam, itu idealisme bullshit yg kyk a bullet out of control, nyari” target yg OBVIOUS doanq. superficial.
dan biasanya idealisme kyk gt based on stereotyping yg dangkal.
… dan entah kenapa people LIKE ME (dari dulu!) selalu jd korban dr idealisme amatiran tersebut.
semoga sih lo ga kyk gt. sayang otak lo klo buat mikirin bullshit kyk gt.
gue bingung klo lo bilang you’re not against the people. don’t hate the players, hate the game. bla-bla.
itu hal yg paling absurd yg gue prnh denger minggu ini, jd gue ga bakal bicara soal itu.
sekedar saran.
knp ga lo gunain energy dan passion-for-life lo utk … - contohnya -
jd leader dlm ngebikin youth art exhibition terbesar di malaysia, berpartisipasi dlm program beasiswa bagi mahasiswa kurang mampu, ato jd orang yg berdedikasi tinggi utk menciptakan lingkungan yg kondusif utk art productivity.
…?
whatever. itu kan lbh nolong..
lagipula, dibalik event” (yg keliatan) hedonis di kampus lo, kali aja itu ide seseorang/sekelompok org yg punya konsepsi yg sama kuat dgn lo. ya ga?
i’m not taking this personally loh..
apa tuh… one person’s terrorist is another person’s hero.. ?
knp gue bilang gue represent jakarta? krn gue org jakarta dan gue hidup di dlm culture yg.. ya bgitu itu.
tp coba lo di posisi gue.
pasti pertanyaan pertama yg di otak lo adlh:
SIAPA ELU… ?
dlm arti, jangan cuma sarkasme kosong belaka.
kosong apa engga, lo silahkeun buktikan itu ke diri lo sendiri.
September 23rd, 2006 at 8:25 pm
“i’m not against any kind of idealism, tp gue senep ngeliar org” idealis amatiran.
pointing fingers and blaming others” Dengan lo manggil orang lain “idealis amatiran”, lo udah ngejudge lho cha, if we go by your standard of “judging” people. Atau mungkin ini waktunya lo revert dan bercermin, dan mungkin bukan mereka yg “amatiran”, after all?
“jd leader dlm ngebikin youth art exhibition terbesar di malaysia, berpartisipasi dlm program beasiswa bagi mahasiswa kurang mampu, ato jd orang yg berdedikasi tinggi utk menciptakan lingkungan yg kondusif utk art productivity. ” Itu bagus banget, betul, dan gw support hal2 seperti itu 100% (dan gw pikir gak ada perlunya gw nulis disini apa yg udah gw lakukan). Tapi ada hal lain yg manusia harus lakukan: MELAWAN HAL YG SALAH. Kalau itu artinya akan melawan arus, then so be it. Itu artinya melawan trend, then so be it. I told you to prove me wrong, back it up with arguments, and I’ll change my mind if I agree. Menurut gw, kalo ada hal yg salah bisa dibetulin, itu bisa menjadi suatu foundation untuk sesuatu yg lebih baik dimasa depan, daripada suatu ekstensi dari kebaikan yg sudah ada.
Hehehe protes bukan lah “stray bullets”. itu adalah suatu bentuk dari ketidak setujuan dan suatu tindakan untuk melawan. Apakah gw melakukan semua ini hanya karena melihat poster2 promosi party mereka? Kalo pikir gw begitu, artinya gw sia2 ngobrol sama lo sejauh ini. Kualifikasi gw adalah sbb: (1) gw murid limkokwing selama 3 tahun, gw tau gmn lkw waktu sebelum pindah ke cyberjaya dan setelah pindah; (2) Gw kenal orang2 yg mempunyai andil didalam mempromosikan party2 tersebut, bahkan beberapa dari mereka adalah temen baik gw; (3) Cewek gw kerjanya di marketting lkw, dia tau how things are run from the inside. And I’ve talked to people about this (both who go to the parties and who don’t), dan banyak dari mereka yg melihat argumen gw valid.
“gue bingung klo lo bilang you’re not against the people. don’t hate the players, hate the game. ” You don’t hate anyone (unless the person has the responsiblity and the intention of hurting others), but you may dislike, hate, or despise the ideas he/she’s selling. Contoh: Gw gak ada masalah sama orang2 yg ngobat/do drugs, cuman yg gw sangat gak suka adalah fakta bahwa dia masuk dalam jeratan narkotika (and all the ideas behind it: the environment, the dealers, the stuff, etc). Ayo lah, ini cuman hal kecil yg bisa di telaah sama semua orang kok
And here’s the fun part: “i’m not against any kind of idealism,” Well, I AM against fascism, nazism, racism, and a bunch of other isms. I’m also against the idea of selling myself out to Phillip-Morris, the idea of continous war in Iraq, occupied Palestine, Kosovo, Mexico, Darfur, and a bunch of other. Why am I against them? Because I have my own principles, and all those things I listed are WRONG (in accordance to my standard and ideas). Egoistic? May be, but they are principles of research and I am happy to know where I stand in these issues. It may be imperfect too, but it is evolving (hence, I asked you to prove me wrong and correct me when needed).
I don’t mind discussing this issue here on this blog (selama kita gak pergi dari topik utama, lagian ini gratis kok hehehe), tapi gw cuman berharap lo bisa back up statements lo dgn hal yg lebih relevan (menurut gw, ngobrolin tentang party di limkokwing berdasarkan pandangan seorang clubber di jakarta yg belum pernah menginjakan kaki di limkokwing cyberjaya dan “hidup di dlm culture yg.. ya bgitu itu”, bukan hanya irrelevan, tapi bisa menjurus menjadi one sided perspective). Betul, opini adalah opini, tapi alangkah lebih baik lagi kalo opini itu bukan hanya didasarkan emosi dan pengamatan sendiri, tapi setelah dibandingkan dgn pandangan2 yg lain
September 24th, 2006 at 6:13 am
gini deh kam.
lo klo suatu saat jadi petinggi *amin*, -imho- lo butuh bgt yg namanya public relation officer.. karena penyampaian lo kykna masih kasar bgt tanpa ada ruang utk sense of diplomacy. niatnya sih bagus, tapi cara lo sepertinya menurunkan nilai dari niat yang dah lo punya.
gue kan ga ngebicarain LKW-nya,
tp…
gmn gue mo nyari back up? masa gue hrs terbang dolo kesana? masa gue hrs nyari pacar dulu yg kerja di kampus lo?
gue ngebicarain CARA lo.
bagi gue, lo teramat sangat ngefokus ke hedonisme nya ya?
klo lo cerdas.. kenapa engga tulis suatu wacana mengenai indikasi nyata yg menandakan tidak efektif-nya event itu di kampus lo.
ato ga, tulis suatu wacana mengenai apa yg ce lo liat di marketing office nya.
wacana yg jelas.
baru setelah ada wacana yg jelas, lo ekspresikan ekspektasi lo.. tapi jgn nyela duluan.
itu ngasih kesan klo lo lg ” ngebuktiin standar pola pikir lo sbg sesuatu yg lebih baik dan lebih bijak drpd org lain. ”
klo bisa begitu, pihak lain -mungkin dari EO party itu- akan menghargai lo dan mereka bisa share konsepsi mereka ma lo, dan kali aja tdk seburuk yg terlihat di luar. KALIIII…
enak kan klo gitu? perspektif lo jadi lebih luas, dunia lo jadi lebih indah.
klo engga bisa begitu, ya lo harus sadar resiko dari segala hal yg lo utarain di public,
krn public itu terdiri dr beraneka ragam jenis org, ngga org yg kyk lo doanq.
then again, apa yg lo berusaha defend disini tuh blurry bgt…
apakah LKW nya?
apakah artistic values nya?
apakah gaya-hidup-tanpa-hedonisme nya?
apakah moralitas ketimuran nya?
apa yg gue baca diatas, lo kyk ngomong.. ” ya ga suka aja gue! ”
klo dah gitu, bole donq gue ga suka juga ma sikap lo.
and trust me — di dunia luar sana — if you keep using this method in expressing ur opinions, yeah.. no komen de gue.
lo kalo dah bilang gue irrelevan n one-sided perspective,
o ya sudah. bagus.
kalo lo dah bisa memberikan penilaian seperti itu ke orang lain, berarti lo udh paham guidelines yg ada untuk lo sendiri.
ps: ttg against any idealism, sbnrnya itu kurang satu kata *maklum gue srng typo error*. tp ya gpp de..
ps”: ttg idealis amatir, udh gue tulis di blog gue.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:13 pm
Heheheh ok, sekarang kita topik pembicaraannya ke “bagaimana si kamil menyampaikan pesan/kesannya ke penjuru dunia”. Gini cha, bagaimana lo bisa ngejudge cara penyampaian gw kalo lo berdasarkan dari tulisan ini doang? Apakah ini akan menjadi diskusi yg lebih “personal”? Can we say, OFFTRACK? Sekedar mengingatkan, _KHUSUS_DI_ENTRY_INI_, gw secara pribadi pengen melontarkan uneg2 gw tentang limkokwing. Sekedar uneg2 kok, makanya gw tutup dengan “Sorry for complaining and not doing anything about it”. Besides, it’s A blog. You can’t do crap with blog but WRITE.
“wacana yg jelas.
baru setelah ada wacana yg jelas, lo ekspresikan ekspektasi lo.. tapi jgn nyela duluan.
itu ngasih kesan klo lo lg ” ngebuktiin standar pola pikir lo sbg sesuatu yg lebih baik dan lebih bijak drpd org lain. “” Terima kasih untuk mengingatkan. Mungkin setelah tugas2 dan obligasi2 yg lain selesai, hal2 tersebut bisa dilakukan.
“then again, apa yg lo berusaha defend disini tuh blurry bgt…” Defend what?? Lo kalo baca lagi tulisan gw, gak ada sebenernya gw penjurusan ke suatu defense. If anything, gw nulis bahwa seharusnya mereka sadar tentang beberapa hal (seperti dimana kita berada, BULAN APA yg akan datang, etc).
“and trust me — di dunia luar sana — if you keep using this method in expressing ur opinions, yeah.. no komen de gue. :)” Keep using this method? LMAO wtf… Icha oh icha, ini yg namanya rant, mengeluarkan uneg2, melepaskan ganjalan di hati (wets…). Aduh gw bingung kenapa lo harus offtrack terus gitu kalo diskusi sama gw. Don’t worry about how I express my opinion, apparently the ones you tend to see aren’t really the calmest ones I write.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:57 am
hehe.. lagak lo tu… bikin kesan gue personal, gue klo personal ga bakal segini “edukatif”-nya kam (jieh).
santai. bukan cuman lo doanq yg gue argue di dunia ini.. ga usah ge-er.
ngeles aje lo mentang” blog.
coba lo bikin di forum, bawa konteks yg sama, klo ga lo kebat kebit juga.. LOL
ini gue ngomongin konteks lo, ngga ada urusan lo di LKW kek, tanah abang kek, bojong kenyot kek,
gue membicarakan bagaimana lo udh mendiskreditkan suatu gaya hidup sekelompok org tertentu.
KONTEKS.
sori. gue dah konsisten,
gue kan ngomongin
1. cara lo,
2. blablabla aktivitas sekelompok org tertentu = hedonisme
3. sisanya sih just to give balance aja
sori aja yak, lo ga ada wacana yg jelas si.. jd gue ga bisa offer argumentasi lain selain yg diatas
btw hebat lo kam, pernyataan BENAR-SALAH yg bisa aja hasil dari subjektivitas (dan social insecurity) lo belaka disamain ma kenyataan absolut!(”seperti dimana kita berada, BULAN APA yg akan datang, etc”)
pantes aja lo ga ada yg mo di-defend, secara lo pingin nge-offend doanq. uneg” apa ga dapet jatah sih? LOL
tp gue ngalah deh..
pastinya moralitas versi kamil yg plng hebat sedunia euy…
cape ah debatnya.
ya sudah y. waste of time bgt.
– end of discussion –
September 27th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Hahahah there ya go
September 27th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
skrg lo delete semua comments gue di blog entry ini.
ditunggu.
September 27th, 2006 at 10:52 pm
Ha! there we go again… Things written here will not be deleted unless they are spam.